Convertible rear facing infant car seat?
We're going to need to replace our SnugRide soon and want to keep the little one rear facing as long as possible. We don't own a car - just use rentals occasionally, so sometimes end up getting a smaller car.
Can anyone recommend a convertible rear facing car seat that doesn't require us to rent a hummer ever time we take a road trip!
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When shopping Remember these rules:
1)the BEST seat is the one that fits your child, fits your car, and will be used correctly 100% of the time. (This is why convenience features DO make a difference and ARE worth the money! If its easy to use, you’re more likely to use it correctly.
2)children need to stay rear facing as long as possible. You sound like you already know all this, but in case you want to share with a friend:
Turning kids forward at 20lbs/1year is an outdated practice that could cost you your child’s life!
A)A forward-facing child under 2 years old is 5 times more likely to be killed or seriously injured in a crash than a rear-facing child of the same age.
B)A child’s vertabrae do not fully fuse until 3-6 years old, before then, she is at great risk for internal decapitation. The spinal column can stretch up to 2 inches in a crash BUT the spinal cord can only stretch up to 1/4 inch before it snaps and baby is gone.
C)Current research suggests that children under the age of two years are 75 percent less likely to die or be seriously injured when they are riding rear facing.
D)In a recent article from Injury Prevention, it was found that the odds of severe injury to forward facing children age 12-23 months old was 5.32 times higher than a rear facing child. (Car Safety Seats For Children: Rear Facing For Best Protection; Injury Prevention 2007; 13:398-402.)
3)Once you do turn them forward facing, they need to stay in a 5 point harness as long as possible. 4 years/40lbs is the minimum for riding in a booster, and most 4 year olds have no business using one yet. If they can’t sit upright for an entire trip, they need the harness of a car seat still. And, even if they do sit properly, a 5 point harness is safer, so you want to keep them in one as long as possible. This is important to consider b/c most car seats only forward face to 40lbs. My son just turned 3, and is in the 95th% for height and weight – 40" tall and weighs 41lbs. He outgrew the 40lbs seats shortly after his 2nd birthday. It was a total waste of money. He now has a Britax Marathon, which goes to 65lbs, and will be able to fit it for some time yet. If I’d have bought it when he was born, I could have had one car seat this whole time instead of the 3 I wasted money on. They are more expensive for many reasons, this is one.
So…knowing all that, here’s some about specific seats. Please don’t get a Graco Comfort Sport. Car seat techs call it the ‘crappysport’. LOL Its a crappy seat that won’t last your child very long b/c it has a really short shell. The straps twist all the time, and if they’re twisted they won’t support your child in a wreck properly. They’re hard to install. There’s nothing good about these seats except perhaps they’re cheap sometimes. Ditto the Safety1st 3-in-1/Cosco Alpha Omega/Eddie Bauer 3-in1 seats. These are all the same company – same seat, just different covers. They stink. Hard to install, b/c of narrow belt paths. Ever tried to wash a skinny cup by hand? Now imagine that skinny cup with pointy edges. That’s what putting your hand through these to install them is like. AND they have too short a shell to really go to 40lbs. And that’s another misleading thing the box says – 5-100lbs. What the box fails to mention (you don’t find out until reading the manual!) is that the harness only goes to 40lbs, NOT 100lbs! After 40lbs it must be used as a booster.And they do not make good boosters. Also, most kids have to use boosters until they’re at least 8 years old. Car seats expire 6 years after the date of manufacture, so no matter what they say it is NOT the last seat you’ll ever need to buy.
That is AWESOME That you’re going to keep baby rear facing!!! For your particular situation, I’d say a seat with locking clips would be my first choice, since they make installation so much easier in every car, also, a seat that fits most cars is important: on both these notes, the Britax Marathon wins hands down. The seat seems big, but in truth, it has been installed successfully in many small cars, including my own 2 door ’99 Civic, a 2 door Cavalier, and a Porsche 911, just to name a few. Part of the reason it works is b/c older babies do not have to have a seat reclined to 45 degrees, just somewhere between 30-45 degrees. with the seat installed more upright, the front seats get more room. So you shouldn’t have any trouble. The only time people seem to have issues is frequently in pickup trucks, which doesn’t sound like it will be the case. The Marathon does cost a little more than the standard Walmart seats, but it will last a long time, too, and be the easiest to install.
The Britax Marathon/Boulevard/Decathalon (These 3 are the same seat, just different variances of luxury additions, with the Marathon being the cheapest base model) can be found for regular price of $269, and on sale at Albee Baby online for $209-$219. The Marathon a wide open easy to route belt path, which makes using it correctly a lot easier, as do the built in lockoffs, which mean you never again have to use a locking clip. I can get it into 4 different vehicles in under 2 minutes. Because of the way the base is made, it fits in most cars. And, it is worth the money, b/c it lasts usually twice as long as most other car seats (all car seats expire 6 years after the date of manufacture) lasting a baby till they are 5-6 years old, where most at Walmart will only last till 2-4 years old. Rear faces to 33lbs, then forward to 65lbs. and top slots 17inches tall, lasts most kids to ages 5-6 years old.
The Evenflo Triumph Advance (not the original Triumph, make sure it says Advance) is a great seat. $150 version at Babies R Us has padding similar to Britax seats, top slots of 17", harnesses to 35lbs rear facing, and 50lbs forward facing. $120 Walmart version just has little less plush padding. Wide open belt path, easy to install, though it doesn’t have built in lockoffs. The harness adjusts at the front of the car seat, you don’t have to take the car seat out of the car just to raise/lower the straps. It has infinite harness adjustment so the harness always fits perfectly until its outgrown. No more tugging straps to tighten them either. You tighten and loosen the harness using knobs on the side of the seat. As a major bonus, it can be used in a recline position even in forward facing mode. Awesome for kids who still sleep in the car. I LOVE THIS SEAT! LOL My son, who is too big for every other car seat at Walmart has the same amount of room in this as the Britax Marathon.
The Compass Tue Fit, also sold as The First Years True Fit, is a great choice, too. Here’s a thread talking all about it: http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=37221&highlight=truefit Has 16.5 inch top harness slots, half inch shorter than the Britax Marathon and Evenflo Triumph Advance. Rear faces to 35lbs, forward faces to 65lbs, has built-in lockoffs, and you never have to rethread the harness to change harness height. The headrest is removable to fit better in smaller cars. $179 for the one cover Walmart offers it in, check Babies R Us and other stores for different covers at a little more expensive price.
Another option if you’re wanting the cheapest way to go, is a Cosco Scenera, mentioned by another poster, $45 at Walmart/Target/Kmart/Sears. Rear faces to 35lbs, forward facing to 40lbs. It makes an awesome rear facing seat. Its lightweight and ok to install -does sometimes require a pool noodle to get a good recline. Drawbacks: it has no EPS foam, which helps absorb crash forces so baby doesn’t, and b/c of low 40lbs weight limit and rather short top harness slots (14.5-15") it does not last very long as a forward facing seat. The average child will outgrow it forward facing at 2-3 years old, leaving you shopping for another forward facing harnessed seat at that time. But for $45, its a great deal.
I drive an itty-bitty Saturn and I have a Cosco something or other (the pink one with flowers they sell at Walmart) and I have used it both ways without any problem.
Britax Roundabout goes up to 40 pounds and can be put rear facing. Britax Marathon goes up to 65 pounds, but it’s much bigger.
Why not just hire a baby seat from the car rental . They aren’t expensive and it would be a lot easier if it’s only now and then. When you pick the car up it will be ready and fitted for you.
If you get a SafeSeat by Graco it is an infant seat but it goes up to 30lbs and 32in so you can use it until the baby is old enought to be in a forward facing seat. I also hace an Evenflo Triumph convertable seat but I prefer the straps on the Graco and its a lot easier to install properly
This one folds flat, but it is heavy as it is made with metal -which allows it to be smaller width wise and actually bigger than most seats on the inner dimension (ie the amount of space for baby).
It is also FAA approved if you want to fly
http://www.elitecarseats.com/Sunshine-Kids-Radian.pro
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If you can fit an infant seat, then a convertible seat should fit no problem. Only newborns require the 45degree angle, so you can install the convertible more upright (up to 30 degrees).
We used to have a 2 door 1994 Saturn Coupe and could fit a rearfacing Britax Marathon in the back seat. It was tight, but it fit.
Great job wanting to keep your little one RF as long as possible!